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Latest news – November 11, 2001

Now Shooting: Episode 11 probably starts filming tomorrow

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Posted by Steve DeKnight on the Bronze on 11-9-01

Cashmere: We’re about to start breaking ep. 14, which will be written by either Rebecca Kirshner or me. On the animated front, I just finished my third script and might do one more before the smoke clears. Can’t wait to see those on the air. Extra cool. Joss was very pleased with the fan reaction to the musical.

Posted by Sweetie on Fanforum on 11-9-01

Grrr... I can't post the spoilers guys! I'm really sorry! I can give you vague references to them though! *sigh* I'm not sure what episode these are from, but most likely 10 or 11 - possibly even 12. It all depends on what episode they're filming right now:

-First off, it looks as if whatever problems B/S may face in episode 9, are resolved at this point. There's no apparent hostility between them.

-There's sort of a Buffy/Spike/Dawn alliance thing going on against Willow, which will hopefully be played upon a lot this season.

-Willow's magic puts Dawn in danger.

-Xander confronts Willow.

Sigh... I'm really sorry that I can't post the details or specifics of these scene, but there's no need to worry about anything. It's B/S-positive and I'm always loving the B/S/D family vibes.

Posted by Sweetie on Fanforum on 11-9-01

Sweetie,
Do you know if Willow does indeed harm Dawn?
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Yes.

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Is Spike's chip still working?
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I have no idea.

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Is Tara already gone?
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I'm assuming.

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Is this why Buffy kicks Willow out of the house?
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I think Buffy kicks Willow out of the house before this happens.

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Does Dawn get really hurt? Does Dawn die? Please say no!!
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I'll say "no" if it'll make you happy.

Ugh! I'm so confused! I'm BEYOND confused! This is the ultimate confusion! They're "morning after" is Episode 9... I'm sure of it! It has to be! It's Scene 4 of Episode 9! Because if it's not, than this means all the demon is NOT possessing Buffy when she calls Spike a "disgusting thing" and whatnot, and Spike's chip really DOES malfunction.

Good lord.
Just to add, I've never been certain on which episodes all these different spoilers take place. I only know for sure when I have the sides (snippets from the script) like I did with Flooded and the Musical. So I guess the morning after scene *could* be Episode 10, but it just doesn't make sense! Sigh...

Posted by rowdy on MBTV on 11-8-01

I don't know if this has been posted already, but my source on the set (who is annoyingly tight with information) has let on that they recently shot a scene between Buffy and Spike, with Spike in his underwear. She's all sing-songy "I'll never tell" as to what's going on in the scene, and I don't know what Buffy is wearing ( I assume they're not both in his underwear because that would be a whole 'nother story), I don't even know whether Spike's undies will be shown (boxers or briefs?). All I know is, it's that much closer to Naked Spike!

Posted by Cobweb on MBTV on 11-9-01
(Posted on behalf of MarcO)

Ep. Titles
I've been told some 'working' titles for episodes - so quite possibly won't be accurate, but may be interesting if only for speculation purposes.

12 - "The Weak, The Strong" - nope, I don't get it either.
13 - "Best Served Cold" - sounds a bit dodgy for an actual ep. title, but
could fit in with the D'Hoffryn theories about "Kiss of the Dragon" (as in
revenge is a...)?

14 - "Past Tense" - no idea why, or at the moment any theories why either.
Or, "QEF", which I'm guessing is the latin quod erat faciendum, that which
was to be done(translation?).

From what I've heard, ep.13 (and maybe one either side) is likely to be Tara-centric, so perhaps it'll be her seeking D'Hoffryn, and not Willow.

Posted by Wendy to BAPS on 11-11-01

Ok folks, I'm going to share with you all a rumor I've been hearing.
I've now heard it from 3 or 4 different sources, and I have reasons to
question them all (no offense to any sources currently reading--you
know my reasons for skepticism), but I'm starting to wonder.

OK, now that I've made you nervous....

I've been hearing that Spike gets a new girlfriend. No clue when/how.
The rumor doesn't go that far. Could be long-term, could be one-night-
stand. No idea if vamp or human or whatever.

What I am *suspecting* is that this happens in Episode 10. Seriously,
how much of Yes-No Buffy is Spike expected to take? Kiss-kick-kiss-
kick. It would make sense that he'd be receptive to *someone* who'd be
more appreciative of his many charms.

In fact, we might go the soap opera route and combine Alane's strong
feelings about Buffy Love Admission with this development. What if Ep.
10 Buffy finally realizes that she has to stop denying her feelings for
Spike and goes to him only to walk in on him with someone else? Ooh,
feel the pain. In some ways, it would serve her right. It would be
payback for her ambivalence and the ways she used him. And it would put
*her* on the defensive and, as so many of us want, even the playing
field between them emotionally. WillingSlave!Spike is the stuff of
fanfic, but not of onscreen drama.

We thus would have the next part of our arc. The question for me is how
this doesn't cut off Spike from the rest of the Scoobies. Do we go back
to WackyNeighbor/S4!Spike? Comes into the ep to get off a quick quip
and a longing look at Buffy before disappearing for the rest of the
episode? Does the alleged Willow/Spike alliance mentioned by KC fit in?
(Eh, always skeptical of her.) And what if Willow is involved magically
in making Spike receptive to another woman's advances? We know from Ep.
9 spoilers that Amy makes with the love spell to try to cheer up Willow
by bringing her another woman.

And what would this mean for Redemption? If Spike joined up with a
vamp, would that make him a less likely candidate for Redemption? Would
he be inspired to do bad things? Would he ally with Willow against
Buffy if it came down to that?

I'm sharing the rumor because it may involve an ep only 2 weeks away,
and I think preparation may be needed. :)

Please, I really do think S/B is long-haul and Spike's redemption is
nearly a given (though we're not there yet). This may be just one of
those downs promised by Drew Greenberg and expected of ME in general.
Do not panic.

Posted by Sweetie on Fanforum on 11-11-01

Now that the girlfriend rumor is out in the open, I don't think it'll kill me to back it up. It still hasn't been "confirmed" but this was the spoiler I was talking about waaay long ago (remember that bad spoiler I said I had but couldn't tell you, but if it was played out a certain way, it could be fun?) Well, that was it. I'm not too worried right now, because I would love to see a jealous Buffy, but the thing I just can't wrap my brain around is that Spike would really fall for someone else. I mean, a one night stand, I could handle, but it's implied that it's going to be an ongoing thing. That, I don't like. And it's not Dru and I don't think it's Amy - supposedly there were people trying out for the part of the "new girlfriend", which means it's nobody we've ever seen before (an old flame from Spike's past, is what I've been hearing). And that would also rule out Willow doing the mojo on Spike (which I could have accepted). Then again, it COULD be Willow... Maybe the girl comes back trying to revert Spike to his evil ways and stuff, but Spike's not interested. Then Willow sees the opportunity to destroy the B/S relationship, by making Spike fall for this girl again. I guess I could see that happening... *sigh* Then again, things usually ever go the way I think they might.

Regarding KC's spoilers - I have no idea. Knowing her track record, I wouldn't put too much faith in them, but then again, I have to admit that they do sound plausible to me. I hate the thought of Spike feeling indebted to Willow, but I also hate the thought of Willow hating Spike. I definitely see more of a Willow/Spike enemies type scenerio, which I'd prefer to a Willow/Spike alliance. But, I dunno. I don't think Joss would make TWO main characters go bad this season - that would be too much, in my opinion. I guess we'll just have to see. Hopefully, I'll get some more spoilers soon that can confirm or deny the whole W/S alliance thingy.
Also, to all of you who are still confused: Buffy and Spike DO sleep together. It's just an episode later than I thought. I thought it was going to be sex in 8 and the morning after in 9, but it's really sex in 9 and the morning after in 10. Hope I cleared that up for some of you.

Aww, you know I would if I could! *cough*nakedspike*cough* Sigh... I think I'm coming down with something.
But really, I can't say anything about the specifics of the scene, besides that it's bad. Oh! And to all the males out there - you guys get a glimpse of Buffy's underwear... and she's not wearing it at the time.
Anyway, although it would be cool, I don't think it's going to be Cecily. Like I said before, there were tryouts for this part, which means we haven't seen this character before.

Posted by Hercules on AICN on 11-10-01
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=10739

And now that the brilliant "Once More, With Feeling" is finally behind us we can address questions about the second "Buffy" of sweeps ("Tabula Rasa," airing Tuesday) and episodes beyond.

Why was Giles giving Anya a big wet one in that promo? Alternate reality? Dream sequence? Bump on the head?
Guess you hadn’t heard about the big "everybody awakens with amnesia" plot revealed in Coax’s "Tablula Rasa" spoilers from a month ago.

So obviously false assumptions are made about the Scoobs’ relationships to one another?
They are. Anya makes a false assumption about her relationship with Giles, but Anya’s not the only one who assumes he or she is something more than a friend to Sunnydale’s resident watcher.

Do Buffy and Spike deal with having had sex this episode?
No. Mostly because Spike and Buffy have not had sex.

Do Buffy and Spike sleep together during this episode?
They do not. As the episode begins, Spike and Buffy are barely on speaking terms, and Buffy blames last episode’s kiss on the singing spell. "What we did, is done," she patiently explains to Spike in the teaser. "But I will never kiss you Spike, never touch you, ever, ever again."

Do Willow and Xander kiss?
No. At least not romantically.

What does the demon Teeth look like?
We dropped a huge clue in Coax’s "Tablula Rasa" spoilers from a month ago.

How soon after "Once More, With Feeling" (6.7) does "Tabula Rasa" (6.8) take place?
Soon. It’s not specified, but it could easily start the same night as the singing demon’s departure.

When does everyone wake up memory-free?
Beginning of act two. The teaser and first act deal with the events of the previous episode. Act two is essentially one very long scene, set entirely in and around the Magic Box as the gang tries to sort things out.

Does Spike wearing the tweed suit have something to do with him being some kind of watcher or future watcher or Giles replacement?
No. It’s a disguise. A disguise Spike dons before the memory-sapping.

Why does Spike need a disguise?
He’s avoiding Teeth, to whom he owes kitties.

Can’t everyone piece together their identities from their wallets?
Not everyone is carrying a wallet.

Who doesn’t carry wallets?
Spike, Buffy, Anya and Dawn.

The big ending to "Tabula Rasa" of which Herc has spoken – is this the major character death Herc's been talking about?
No.

Does the big ending involve Amy’s derodentification?
No. Amy remains a rat throughout "Tabula Rasa." Only in the following episode, "Smashed" (6.9), is Amy finally restored to human form.

Amy finally gets de-ratted? Has Herc mentioned this before?
This news is almost as old as Herc’s first "Tick" review. David Fury spilled in the July 25, 2000 edition of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and Coax related his spillage here.

Will Amy stay de-ratted, or will the increasingly powerful Willow have her back on the hamster wheel by the end of "Smashed"?
Amy remains in human form beyond "Smashed."

Does Amy return with the brain of a rat?
Nope. She returns as a big powerful witchgirl who even continues to impress Will.

Any other cool spoilers beyond "Smashed"?
Yes. The episode right after "Smashed" is written by Marti Noxon and titled "Wrecked" (6.10). This final episode of November sweeps deals with how Marvel Girl’s … er, Willow’s growing power puts Dawn in danger.

Join me in the Crypt of Decryption:

Since my "Spike's girlfriend" rumor has hit the net, I figure I should post my original email to BAPS about it. I also need to stress that this is only a rumor. It is not confirmed. Here is my original e-mail.

Scheduled writers and episode titles:

Ep #8 Rebecca Rand Kirshner
Title: Tabula Rasa

Ep #9 Drew Z. Greenberg
Title: Smashed

Ep#10 Marti Noxon Confirmed 11-9-01
Title: Wrecked

Ep#11 David Fury Confirmed 11-15-01
Directed by David Fury
Title: Unknown

Ep#12 Jane Espenson Confirmed 11-2-01
Title: Unknown

Ep#13 Steve DeKnight Confirmed 11-15-01
Title: Unknown

Ep#14 Doug Petrie Confirmed 11-15-01
Title: Unknown

Ep#15 Rebecca Kirshner Unconfirmed 11-11-01
Title: Unknown

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